You have no doubt experienced bereavement in your own life. Think back to this experience. What among the various things people said or did, was most helpful for you at this time?
Monday, June 18, 2018
Death & Dying Customs
Did the information on preparing a body according to Muslim, Buddhist & Jewish customs ring true for you? Can you add anything to the information? Have you had any experience with death and dying customs practised in other religions such as Christianity or Hinduism? Can you describe your experience?
You have no doubt experienced bereavement in your own life. Think back to this experience. What among the various things people said or did, was most helpful for you at this time?
You have no doubt experienced bereavement in your own life. Think back to this experience. What among the various things people said or did, was most helpful for you at this time?
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In my experienced about death and dying customs ring true in Thai's Buddhist is my grandfather who passed away at 101 years old. While my grandfather lived as a monk who died of aspirated pneumonia disease. His Thai funeral was not the same as that of other people in Buddhism. His funeral is simple according to Buddhist beliefs about the truths of arise and fall. After my grandfather pass away. My family had funeral are a celebration of liberation in my town who has deaths over 100 years old. His corpse is kept for 7 days before cremation, a period of time in which prayer over the body is observed. Six of the seven days visits are made by monks, engaging in evening prayer by the body by 101 monks. This is a sign of a high rank in Thai culture. The coffin is adorned with light garlands, flowers, and a picture of the deceased. After prayer, the corpse is burned to release the spirit, which continues onto the next stage of the after life. Traditional Thai music is typically played, with an orchestra rented for higher-profile funerals.
ReplyDeleteFascinating post. Your grandfather certainly lived to an old age! Does 'longevity' run in your family? A quick query: If he had lived to, say, 80 years of age would 80 monks have visited his body and engaged in evening prayer there?
DeleteAstonishing, your grandfather have long life 100 years. I think your grandfather have a lot of lover.
Deleteoh!I did not heard this story before. It good experienced.
DeleteIt's similar with the famous monk funeral ceremony in Ubon Ratchathani and somtimes a Buddhist kept the dead for over seven to one hundred days.
DeleteAbsolutely.I think a number of monks according to his old age.
DeleteYour description is clear to see the whole traditional funeral and believe. Wonderful
DeleteIn my opinion, I think something differences form my local culture maybe because your grandfather is the monk and he was longevity.New experience for me about Thai ceremony in another part of Thailand.
DeleteIn the central region of Thailand, the funerals usually be arranged like celebrations which amaze me. They keep the body for at least seven days I think it's too long and cost the money. But I saw these kind of activity can relive the families from the sorrow of bereavement.
DeleteIn the traditional funeral Thailand has a number of monks according to even number such as four,six something like that.
DeleteThat sounds really interesting. Firstly, your grandfather could live for long time period more than a hundred years old, perhaps he was a monk so he could live in peaceful spirit. The second is that there was 101 monks which prayed for his body. I had an experience that a famous monk died in my village, people who were the Buddhists did funeral ceremony for him. They covered his whole body with gold and keep his body for 100 days before it was cremated.
DeleteThank you for your sharing. In my opinion, Other place have different tradition to respect for dead person.
DeleteMany past years ago.I have been for Death & Dying Customs with my mother she is dying with CHF and my family has Funeral Arrangements.IT very important to provide as much peace and quiet.In general bodies are cremated in Thailand; burial in Thailand is not customary and is expensive. The process is also very lengthy.normally a period of three day or so prayers.On the clothes worn to a Thai funeral Barrow wrote: “You should wear either black or white or a combination of the two. You should avoid any bright colours but you could get away with it if it is a muted colour.Funeral directors in Thailand are likely to have at least .After the cremation ,later has again period of one hundred day for Budhism 'activity .so,recall thinking of for her.
ReplyDeleteIn both NZ and Japan it is customary to wear black to a funeral, though in Japan they are no doubt stricter about this.A question about the 100 days: What kinds of things do you do during this period?
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DeleteThat true.It is cultural in Thailand.
DeleteReally,It's a main point for a suitable dressing in Thailand.
DeleteThai culture, dress to the funeral Suitable for temperate white and black.
DeleteAfter the 100 days of my grandmother death, family members and relatives were provided food and donated for monks and the monk chanted and blessing for the deceased.
DeleteI prefer to wear black to the funeral, I dont think white is appropriate.
DeleteWearing black is considered being respectful to the death in my culture too, it's an international etiquette, I think.
DeleteI'm curious about most of the funerals in your home town usually held at temples or houses?
DeleteIt is true.
DeleteThai Buddhist should wear black and white cloths for showing mourning expression while Christians belief that they will have a chance to see God after they died so they have to be happy when someone passed away and It is not necessary to wear mourning cloths in long time period.
DeleteI think it's right about the practice of death in Buddhism, but there is a bit more Buddhist information: a relative will wear black and white for 90 days if the family dies.
ReplyDeleteI have never experienced any other religious death. But I have experience of dying in Buddhism when there are serious illnesses or accidents in life when patients are hospitalized and the symptoms of the illness are quite severe. Patients often return home to death, such as patients with severe or chronic illnesses that can not live longer. Physicians and nurses will talk and discuss with the patient's family to plan for the death of patients who wish to die in the hospital or at home. In the belief of Thai people, death at home will make patients feel safe, calm and relatives are able to visit or care more closely than the hospital. Bringing the near-death patient home is a common sight in Thailand.
Interesting! I think some New Zealanders also prefer to die at home. I also think, though, that the option of dying in such a supportive environment as a hospice is valued highly in New Zealand.
DeleteIt is good idea.I think most of people would like to use the last time in their home with close relative.
DeleteAbsolutely,home is the center of warm relationship.
DeleteMy grandmother died at home which was a good place for death.
DeleteI agree with you, Thai people Thai people are very family-friendly.Birth or death requires families to always be involved.
DeleteI have no experience in other religions too. It is interesting to know what others feel and concern about after dying.
DeleteI've known that Muslim must bury dead bodies before the sun sets on the day they die.
DeleteExactly,the finally time patient need to live with their family and dead in comfortable and familiar place.Overall of them need to back home.
DeleteWe can adopt the Buddhists' belief in our patient care. That the peach minds before dying are good for dying patients so how and where to die should depend on them.
DeleteThe patients who are in end of life time might need to be with their family members. Therefore, they may be happy if they have a chance to be at home. Health care professionals should let them to make decision about what do they want in the rest of their life.
DeleteThree year ago, my father he pass away of Cholagiocarcinoma (CHCA). I used the nursing care knowledge of the palliative care of my father from illness to pass away for a total of 4 months.
ReplyDeleteMy Father went away peacefully at home. The knowledge of end-of-care is a new issue because of the seriousness of this issue, about 5 years ago, the Ministry of Public Health recognized the importance of accelerating the training and understanding of this issue to bring knowledge. I have to take care of patients. The training is a short and long-term, from 3 days to 7 days, 4 months and 1 year, etc. On the other hand, the nurses in the care of patients in the final stage is not free, but under the command but sometimes not. The doctor must be a doctor before the nurse can provide medical care. In many hospitals in Thailand, there are no specialized doctors for palliative care.
In my opinion The role of nurses in nursing care should be enhanced as nurses care for the patients closest to them.
Yes, no doubt, nurses should have a significant role to play in palliative care as they do indeed spend more time with the patient than others in the team providing patient care.
DeleteNurses,who understand human.
DeleteI strongly agree with your great experience.
Deletewhat a good daughter!! In hospitals, nurses play a important role in palliative care. Ofcourse
DeleteYour first hand experience from taking care of your dad will make you to be the best palliative nurse in Thailand, I'm so sure.
DeleteMost important to respect the patients and their family are plan and decide by them.
DeleteThat is great experience. I think very hard when you take 2 role in the same time.You are very strong.
DeleteI have experienced a funeral ceremony only with Buddhist. Firstly, the period of the funeral in my hometown where located at northeastern Thailand has taken up for three to seven days depends on the position in the society. Secondly, if people suddenly death such as an accident or sudden unexpected death syndrome, their family have kept the deceased only for three days before buried because they believe that the dead will give a trouble unfortunately to a family. While a death caused by the illness, their family has always cremated them. In addition, during the funeral ceremony, people in the community donated and encouragement for the fatality family and the deceased family provided food for peoples to join the ceremony. Moreover, in the evening, monks chanted for praying for the dead about one hour and people stayed to listen to the monks chanting for an hour. On the cremation day, a community nurse sometimes came to condolence. Especially a palliative care cases, a nurse supported the family from a bereavement period by a conversation and a mentality support which is one of the community nurse role. Finally, I have experienced that people said to me for encouragement after my grandmother passed away. It was helpful “you did the best things for the deceased”.
ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing! It is interesting that community nurses sometimes take the role of providing support during the bereavement period.
DeleteI agree with you.I have several times when I was teaching my student about home health care in community area.
DeleteThat good. Nurses have important role about terminal care.
DeleteI thought people who died from accident will keep longer, to make sure that that person already know that they are dead. I am not sure.
DeleteThai culture has storge ceremony becouse it has long history.
DeleteBereavement period is so important for family members who have just lost their beloved one, so supportive approach from nurses can be very valuable for them.
DeleteThank you for you sharing detail about funeral ceremony.
DeleteI also had an experience like you when I worked at hospital. When a patient was in end of life time, his family member asked me for invited a monk to pray for him.
DeleteThis is interesting story.The cause of dying it has effect for to set the ceremony while set at home or temple because traditional's Thailand someplace awareness of these depend on their' belives.
DeleteIn my opinion, it is very important that healthcare professionals should be aware of cultural and religion beliefs and customs of dying patients and their families. Therefore, the information on preparing a body according to different cultures and religions ring true for me.I have some experience on preparing a body according to Thai Buddhist.According to my great-grandmother who was a Buddhist passed away last 20 years ago due to old age with 98 years old. The doctor who looked after her told us that her heart could stop at any time because it worked for a long time. Everyone in my family decided to do nothing if she had cardiac arrest. We did not want to harm her with intubation and cardiopulmonary resuscitation, we wanted to provide her as much peace and quiet as possible. Thus we decided to take her home and took care of her ourselves. It is amazing that she could alive for 3 years after we brought her home. In that time, I did not know actually why she could be with us for a long time after the doctor told that we were hopeless. I think that she was happy when she had a chance to be with her family instead of hospital. When the time that she had to go came, my grand aunt who was with her in the evening before she died told me that she heard my great-grandmother prayed with quiet voice while she was lying in bed. After that her voice was stopped and she passed away. I think that she tried to imagine the good things before she died and She would like to fulfil her spiritual with happiness.
ReplyDeleteAfter she passed away, we cleaned her body with some water and washed her face with coconut milk because Thai Buddhists belief that coconut milk is very pure, if we use it to wash the body ‘s face, it can wash away sin and bad things and a person who died will feel in a peaceful state and can go into another new life with happiness. We also dressed her body with beautiful cloths that her liked to wear and keep her body for three days before it was cremated.
Thanks for sharing your story in such a vivid and moving way. Those 3 years must have been an unexpected treasure for you & your family.
DeleteI really interesting about your story. Thank a lots.I'm proud of you.
DeleteThanks for your experienced.I think religion can help person before pass away.
DeleteYou are good nurse and good granddaughter.
Deleteyes, interesting story.
DeleteI had been experienced with death and dying in another religions but I had been experienced bereavement when my patal grandmother was pass away. 2 day before her death my fater take her to the hospital because she confused and had a fever. The doctor adviced my family about prognonsis and care plan and asked if she arrest do you want to resuscitate? We decided nonresuscitate becuse she told my father she donot want any thing to make she hurt. When the time was comes my family stay with her and told her to pay and think to my buddy in the guited and peace environment untill she passed away. Her corpse was kept to 5 day for pray by the monks. After that we burned the corpse because buddhist belive in next stage of life.
ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing this story. You can use your experience with the death of your paternal grandmother to inform your own professional practice. Did you find the doctor, nurses and porters and so on kind & sensitive?
DeleteFor me in this moment is very sensitive for family every thing which the care provider do easier to make a conflict. I think sympathy and give information are very importance and give time for family to say good bye as well.
DeleteMy experienced in Southern Thailand with death and dying custom about other religion is Muslim.When Muslim died,family member would like is buried within 24 hours.However,rule of hospital wait for after death 2 hour when people death.If some people live in far away from hospital. They invite imam or Islamic headman to perform ritual at hospital.
ReplyDeleteI think nurse understand them. It is Transcultural Nursing.
Interesting! When we learn about what is important to patients of various cultures and religions, we can support them appropriately.
DeleteI saw some news about prisoner of death in Thailand yesterday. Hospital's manager send his body from Bangkok to Southern Thailand with in 24 hours. Sometimes I don't understand about 24 hours why ?
DeleteI will aware of this ceremony when I take care of Muslim patients.
DeleteFrom my perspective, pharmacists do not have to deal with dying patients but they do understanding that religious considerations for dying are importance. In my experience in ICU, for Buddhist patient bereavement must be clam and quite. Normally all family members will gather to say goodbye and patients will speak to each one to clear their mind, if they have enough time. Sometimes family members will pray and so patient at the last moment of their life. According to the believe of Buddhists that clam mind will bring to heaven, so it is importance that patient should not have to worry or health providers should not worry them. Moreover, in ICU or any other wards in the hospitals are easy to find pictures of Buddha or monk on the wall next to patient's beds to keep them clam.
ReplyDeleteAs I read your post, I reflected on how important it is to treat dying patients with respect and to affirm their dignity. Then I reflected that that is how we should treat others in all situations all of the time. :-)
DeleteIn my experience, Some department in hospital in Thailand can invite monks in order to shot prayer for the end stage patient.
DeleteAfter reading the article about death costume, I do feel surprised because there are the similarities of death costume among Muslim and Judaism. Even though I used to work in muslim culture, I have never seen how they process dead bodies. Therefore,I have experienced only Bhudism’s one.
ReplyDeleteMost Thai people are Bhuddist. When their family members are passing away, they usually assemble to offer forgiveness for, say goodbye and do apologise to the dying people. They believe that dying people will reincarnate in better life if they think good before dying, and they will forget thier worry if they meet or hear thier family members’ goodbye.
For cremation, praying for dead people is necessary. It is beliefs. Moreover, This activity can decrease the sadness from the bereavement because a number of the deads’ relatives will come together to pray for them which make their partner or their children recover from sorrow faster.
Things I have learnt from the death stories are that life is not certain, nothing belongs to me even my body and everyone must face the bereavement.
Thanks for sharing the philosophical reflections on death. There are some proverbs often shared in English: "From dust to dust & ashes to ashes" and "You can't take it with you." They remind us of the fragility of life and the ultimate absurdity trying to amass material wealth here on earth.
DeleteI think death is another cycle of life.
DeleteI'm a Bhuddist, so I have been in many cremations in my neighbourhood. I noticed that before bodies were cremated, they had been held in a parade around the crematorium for three times. This custom is believed as a sign to inform the deaths that they are alredy dead.
ReplyDeleteFor my family, we believe that dying is just the end of this life on earth, so person who died is going to rebirth in his new life. Thinking like this makes us feel less depressed and relieves our sorrowness.
Thanks for sharing. Christians have a similar hope to Buddhists. We believe that the soul is immortal and that new life beckons beyond the grave. We look forward to resurrection from the dead at the end of time and being given a new body by our Lord.
DeleteWe are born from earth, at the time of death we return to the earth.
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